Covid treatments – UPDATE

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Covid treatments – UPDATE

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Hi everyone.
Unfortunately I shall be unable to make it to the Café Catchup on Sunday. Steve suggested Covid treatments as a discussion topic so I thought I would include my contribution here.
My haematologist said that if I test positive I should be treated with the antiviral Paxlovid (preferred) or Molnupivivir within 5 days from first symptoms. My GP said that many pharmacies don’t stock these because of their high cost and they have to be ordered in. A better option would be to ring around to try to find one that stocks it because time is of the essence.
Has anyone had experience of these antivirals or have a plan of action if they need to get hold of one in a hurry?
Have a good catchup :D
Allan
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Evening Allan... :D

Thanks Allan for Posting this, not only as a "Topic Discussion" but quite possibly also as a next generation treatment regime to combat the ongoing extant presence of COVID–19...

There are some suggestions out there that while circa 40+% of the globe remains inadequately vaccinated against CV–19, newer strains of the variants will simply continue to emerge, (& international borders are now reopened), and in Australia at least to my observations by actions of general community's complacency in public spaces etc... The pandemic is considered as over!

In any event, I shall keep wearing my mask in public for the foreseeable future, as in my view at least, the pandemic is far from over...

Allan, many here may not have heard as yet of some of these newer CV–19 Anti-Virals, because we do not possess your pharmaceutical knowledge or background. However, the following article suggests why it may prove prudent to find a stockist sooner rather than later, if like many others you are now concerned about the speculated CV–19 3RD WAVE, thank you Allan:


What is Paxlovid?
Paxlovid is an oral antiviral pill that can be taken at home to help keep high-risk patients from getting so sick that they need to be hospitalised. So, if you test positive for the coronavirus and a health care provider writes you a prescription, you can take pills at home and lower your risk of going to the hospital.
Paxlovid goes on PBS as GPs urged to avoid private prescribing

This is the first week the COVID-19 treatment has been available on the PBS, meaning two oral antiviral medications can now be prescribed by general practice.

Box of Paxlovid treatments

Nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir (Paxlovid) became available on the PBS on 1 May. GPs have been urged to avoid private prescriptions as one of the Federal Government’s key tools in managing COVID-19 moves on to the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS).

The oral antiviral nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir (sold as Paxlovid) can now be prescribed by GPs, with stock arrivals imminent or already having taken place at most community pharmacies.

It means there are now two oral antiviral treatments with the PBS molnupiravir (sold as Lagevrio) having been added to the PBS at the beginning of March.

Both treatments first entered the healthcare system in Australia through the National Medical Stockpile.

While the listing will expand the availability of the medications, GPs have been warned that supply is limited and that they should only prescribe the medications to those eligible under the PBS criteria.

According to those guidelines, the following groups are considered the most at risk of severe disease and are the only ones who should currently be considered for the treatments if they are confirmed with COVID-19:

patients aged 65 or older, with two other risk factors for severe disease
those aged 75 or older with one other risk factor
Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander origin are aged 50 and older with two further risk factors for severe disease
any patient over the age of 18 who is moderately to severely immunocompromised.
In a Department of Health webinar on Monday (2 May), the Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said the drugs needed to be targeted carefully.

‘We’re discouraging private prescriptions because we don’t have an unlimited supply of either Paxlovid or Lagevrio,’ he said.

‘It’s currently been manufactured for delivery all around the world, so it does need to be prioritised for those people who are most at risk of becoming severely unwell if infected with COVID-19.’

He also said the cost of more than $1000 per treatment course might mitigate against the likelihood of private prescriptions.

The Federal Government ordered 300,000 treatment courses of molnupiravir last year, and has now committed to a total of 1 million courses of nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir

Both oral antivirals are designed to be taken within five days of diagnosis or onset of symptoms and are intended to stop mild or moderate cases becoming more severe and requiring hospitalisation.

Professor Kidd again reiterated the broad spectrum of potential patients who could qualify for the prescription under the banner of being moderately or severely immunocompromised. These range from people with HIV/AIDS to those with intellectual and physical disabilities.

The nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir treatment has already been used widely in hospital settings, with more than 40,000 prescriptions dispensed as of early last month. Last week, it was confirmed that more than 12,000 prescriptions of molnupiravir have been made since it became available on the PBS.

Molnupiravir was widely distributed to aged care facilities when stocks became available earlier this year.

Paxlovid contraindications
Professor Kidd also highlighted the significant differences between the contraindications that apply for the two separate treatments.

‘The big caution with Paxlovid is that, unlike Lagevrio, [it] has a lot of contraindications with a large number of other medicines,’ he said during a COVID-19 response update webinar for primary care professionals last week.

‘You need to look very carefully through the list of medicines that your patient is taking and make sure there are no contraindications.

‘If there are contraindications, please do not prescribe.’

He also responded to a query received during the webinar about pausing contraindicated medications to allow the new oral antiviral to be administered, which he strongly advised against.

‘We are not recommending temporarily withholding a contraindicated medication,’ he said.

‘Part of the reason is that the washout period for many of those medications would be too long to allow us to safely administer Paxlovid.’

If nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir is contraindicated due to conflicting medication, he advised that molnupiravir be considered.

He also reminded those watching the webinar that nirmatrelvir plus ritonavir was contraindicated in patients with severe renal or hepatic impairment.

Neither of the oral anti-viral medications should be prescribed to pregnant or breastfeeding women.

Among the resources available for GPs is a risk classification tool devised by the COVID-19 Evidence Taskforce, which is designed to help assess the appropriate treatment options for patients.

Professor Michael Kidd also appeared on the Good GP podcast with Dr Sean Stevens last Friday to discuss the new PBS listing.

Full details on the nirmatrelvir and ritonavir (Paxlovid) listing can be found on the PBS website. The full list of contraindications can be found on the product information published on the TGA website.

Full details on molnupiravir (Lagevrio) can also be found on the PBS website. Product information is published on the TGA website.


REFERENCES

Attwooll, Jolyon. 2022. "Paxlovid goes on PBS as GPs urged to avoid private prescribing" Royal Australian College of General Practitioners – NEWS, 02 May 2022
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinic ... -as-paxlov


PBS News
Paxlovid® (nirmatrelvir and ritonavir) PBS listing
https://www.pbs.gov.au/info/news/2022/0 ... bs-listing

PBS News
Lagevrio® (molnupiravir) PBS listing
https://www.pbs.gov.au/info/news/2022/0 ... bs-listing
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Thanks for posting information about these antivirals, Steve.
With the continuing high number of Covid deaths in Australia, particularly among aged care residents, I wonder how many of those unfortunate people are being prescribed antivirals. They would certainly qualify from the criteria listed. I don't think there is a general awareness of the availability of antivirals among the wider community.
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Evening Allan... :-)

Pleasure my friend, and it was for that precise reason I thought I'd offer the extra information on your Thread concerning the newer 'Anti-Viral' treatment options. It appears Allan, most are more concerned with how to manage these dynamic economic shifts to daily life etc... And few if any are able to still be listening, one feels... Methinks COVID fatigue is just another version of "Long Covid", no pun intended.

In addition, there appears such a high level of complacency in the general community, where CV–19 is concerned, & very little is being made of the speculative possibility of a "3RD Wave", now that globally all the barriers to international travel seem to have lapsed.

Personally, I remain unable to resile myself to the notion that people in our precarious conditions, should be playing Russian Roulette at all...

However, each will manage their predicaments in their own way, one assumes... (?)

Appreciate your Posting Allan, & sorry that you won't be joining us on Sunday, as I am sure you are much better qualified to respond to questions on Anti-Virals than am I my friend...

Stay happy, safe & well Allan.

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Re: Covid treatments – UPDATES

An update.
It is my understanding from reading the revised Health information that all over 18s with an MPN should be eligible for oral antivirals if we test positive for Covid.
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts ... ligibility
The challenge may be persuading your GP that MPNs are classed as blood cancers. My suggestion would be to have the conversation with your GP beforehand rather than wait until you have a positive RAT. It would also be sensible to determine which of the two approved antivirals you should have. Paxlovid is reported to be more effective but cannot be taken if you are on some medications. I am taking a statin so I would be prescribed Lagevrio.
Has anyone out there had Covid and have you taken antivirals? Your feedback would be useful. Thanks
Allan
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